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In Reply to: Elvis Saves? posted by Julie Hoffer on January 28, 1999 at 13:22:01:

: I don't mean to offend anyone's religious beliefs, this is simply a comment on
: somthing that Tom said in class today.

: One of the issues that came up during the discussion on religions was the debate
: between Lutheran, Catholic and Calvanist views on salvation. Lutherans believe
: that individual faith saves, Catholics that the church saves and Calvinists that
: it is pre-determined whether you're saved. Also Tom said that Lutheranism was
: created, in part, to appeal to the growing merchant class, Catholicism appeals
: to the poor and Calvanism seems to appeal to the wealthy. The Calvanists
: believed that God would treat the chosen ones well on earth, making them
: wealthy.

: This seems like they have turned religion into a social convention. This is
: exactly the sort of thing that makes me skeptical about relgions. What does God
: have to do with social class? Did Protestantism give people the right to
: interpret the bible in the way that best suits their own private purposes?
: Hmmm? It seems that a lot of people do that still today.

: On a slightly different note, when I was in Portland, Oregon a few years ago, I
: saw a twenty-four hour church of Elvis. I think that Luther and the other
: Christian humanists would probably fall over dead (except that they already are)
: if they thought that this was the legacy of Protestant Reformation. Or would
: they? Elvis saves? I guess that if people believe that they will find
: salvation in Blue Suede shoes, more powe

Interesting thoughts. See the following link: http://www.xlibris.com/ElvisSaves.html

Bill Yancey

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