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In Reply to: Renaissance Humanism and Manifest Destiny? posted by Julie Hoffer on February 10, 1999 at 18:00:55:

Are we really looking at what the europeans did at this time through objective eyes? It is said that the rennaisance people of that time were confident...too confident that they thought their way was the right way and that all others were wrong. But why was it they thought that the things they did when they struck the sea and found "new" lands were right? They encountered "new" lands and "new" peoples, they enslaved them, they killed them, they took their belongings and their land but they did it because they thought they were doing the right thing. The native peoples they found were "savages", they worshipped different and strange gods, they sacrificed humans and they didn't even appreciate the gold that they had in such abundance. The europeans had God's blank check to do the things they did, they were simply trying to convert these poor savages to the right religion. And hey, if those natives weren't going to cooperate wasn't it God's will that they, being idolaters and pagans, be put either to death or servitude? I don't find it too hard to see how these european travelers could do the things they did. When you think about the backing, the God given right that they thought they had to do those things, it is really no surprise that cortes and the conquistadores probably didn't feel too much grief over their actions. Put yourselves in their shoes and take what you have seen of religous zealots and their actions and see if you can't feel their so called justification and logic. Kinda scary.

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