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Posted by Rylan Bachman on December 11, 1998 at 20:30:30:

In Reply to: Re: Lie,Lie,LIE.Lie,Lie,Lie posted by Jeffree Gilbert on December 11, 1998 at 11:12:14:

You seem to have a problem with scientific theory and a scientific fact.
Yes there are conflicting theories in science, but these are based on scientific facts, the differences result when there is a lack of facts.

>Or for some real fun check out the Flat Earth Society
>and its membership list.

Ok lets do that. This guy has a problem with scientists too.
And after the flat earth society (and a Link)I included the credo for the
Tychonian Society (geocentrism) AKA The Association for Biblical Astronomy after the flat earth stuff. Geocentrism is a subject of far more interest to this class since we will be covering Galileo apparently.


International Flat Earth Research Society
known as
FLAT EARTH SOCIETY

Charles K. Johnson, President
Marjory Waugh Johnson, Sec.
Telephone: (805) 727-1635
PO Box 2533, Lancaster, CA 93539

Aim: To carefully observe, think freely rediscove forgotten fact and oppose theoretical dogmatic assumptions. To help
establish the United States...of the the world on this flat earth. Replace the science religion...with SANITY

The International Flat Earth Society is the oldest continuous Society existing on the world today. It began with the
Creation of the Creation. First the water...the face of the deep...without form or limits...just Water. Then the Land sitting
in and on the Water, the Water then as now being flat and level, as is the very Nature of Water. There are, of course,
mountains and valleys on the Land but since most of the World is Water, we say, "The World is Flat." Historical
accounts and spoken history tell us the Land part may have been square, all in one mass at one time, then as now, the
magnetic north being the Center. Vast cataclysmic events and shaking no doubt broke the land apart, divided the Land to
be our present continents or islands as they exist today. One thing we know for sure about this world...the known
inhabited world is Flat, Level, a Plain World.

We maintain that what is called 'Science' today and 'scientists' consist of the same old gang of witch doctors, sorcerers,
tellers of tales, the 'Priest-Entertainers' for the common people. 'Science' consists of a weird, way-out occult concoction
of jibberish theory-theology...unrelated to the real world of facts, technology and inventions, tall buildings and fast cars,
airplanes and other Real and Good things in life; technology is not in any way related to the web of idiotic scientific
theory. ALL inventors have been anti-science. The Wright brothers said: "Science theory held us up for years. When we
threw out all science, started from experiment and experience, then we invented the airplane." By the way, airplanes all fly
level on this Plane earth.

Our Society of Zetetics have existed for at least 6,000 years, the extent of recorded history. Extensive writing from 1492
b.c. We have been and are the Few, the Elite, the Elect, who use Logic Reason are Rational. Summed up, we are Sane
and/ or have Common Sense as contrasted to the "herd" who is unthinking and uncaring. We have absorbed the
Universal Zetetic Society of America and Great Britian, ZION U.S.A., the work of Alexander Dowie 1888, Wilber Glen
Voliva 1942, Samuel Shenton, Lillian J. Shenton of England 1971. Zetetic: from Zeto, to seek and search out; Prove, as
contrasted to theoretic which means to guess, to hope, to suppose, but NOT to 'prove'. Science 'proves' earth a 'ball' by
'scripture' words. We PROVE earth Flat by experiment, demonstrated and demonstrable. Earth Flat is a Fact, not a
'theory'!

Our aim is not to 'disturb the herd' or wreck the Government, but rather to be an aid to the Elite Human Being in coming
to KNOW earth flat...to then FREE his or her mind from such blind unreasoning 'theory-superstition' and so go on "to
carefully observe...think freely...rediscover forgotten facts and oppose theoretical dogmatic assumptions." As Sir Fields,
owner of newspapers in England, has said about us, "They are the Last pocket of individual Thinkers in English
speaking world."

I sometimes call myself the Last Iconclast. Science is a false religion, the opium of the masses. I myself count it as a
begining of Sanity to confess 'the creation proves there was a Creator' so a God or Creator...Exists. From a life-time of
study, of seeking out a proving things, from the study of 6,000 years of recorded history, from observation, from
experience, from Common Sense Observation, have concluded the 10 Commandments are in fact good Laws of Living
and Behavior for oneself and all in contact with you...truley 'Laws of Physics for Living.' That is my opinion. The Fact
the Earth is Flat is not my opinion, it is a Proved Fact. Also demonstrated Sun and Moon are about 3,000 miles away are
both 32 miles across. The Planets are 'tiny.' Sun and Moon do Move, earth does NOT move, whirl, spin or gyrate.
Australians do NOT hang by their feet under the world...this is a FACT, not a theory! Also a Fact the Spinning,
Whirling, Gyrating Ball World Planet, Globe Idea is Entirely 100% now and at all times in the Past, a RELIGIOUS
DOCTRINE...a Blind Dogmatic Article of Faith in the Religion for the Blind unreasoning beast of prey. No earthly
reason for a Sane, Upright Member of the Elite Elect Humans to subscribe to it. Also a Fact, today the Elite of Earth
ALL live on the Flat World. Only the illogical, unreasoning "herd"...prefers the way-out occult weird theology of the old
Greek superstitution earth a spinning ball! Both Copernecious and Newton, the inventors of the "modern" superstitions
(400 year OLD modern) have said: "It is not possible for a Sane reasonable person to ever really believe these Theories."
Thus sayeth Newton-Copernecious. What sayeth THOU?

Associate Membership contribution of $10.00 a year, includes four (4) issue of FLAT EARTH NEWS and
Membership Card. An 8 x 12 Color Certificate of Membership is $5.00 extra. Sustaining Member $25.00 a year;
Patron $100.00 and up. One year of the quarterly (4 issues) FLAT EARTH NEWS and Membership Card and
Certificate. $5.00 single copy. Each issue contains further proofs of the fact - earth IS flat. People of goodwill who seek
the truth also known as the Facts are Welcome! We do not want members who are stupid, mindless, brute beasts with
two feet whose only aim is to scoff or in some way 'harm' our work -- Facts, Logic, Reason, Sanity also known as
commonsense, is our aim.

In 30AD JC said... seek and find the Truth and it will set you free. Free from the Pathological Liars...the great pretenders
who mislead all flesh and blood.


Age ______ RACE ______ Sex ______

Occupation ______

Are you a teacher of any kind in the education system? ______
Minister? ______
Priest? ______
Rabbi? ______

I hereby affirm my aim in joining is not to harm, degrade, damage or defame this Society

signed ______
date ______

How did you hear of us?

SPECIAL: FLAT EARTH MAP (as featured in Newsweek, 7/2/84) $6.00 postpaid; Membership, Certificate, and Map
$20.00.


ASSOCIATION FOR BIBLICAL ASTRONOMY

CREDO

The Association for Biblical Astronomy was originally founded in 1971 as the Tychonian Society, on the premise that the only
absolutely trustworthy information about the origin and purpose of all that exists and happens is given by God, our Creator and
Redeemer, in his infallible, preserved word, the Holy Bible. All scientific endeavor which does not accept this revelation from on
high without any reservations, literary, philosophical or whatever, we reject as already condemned in its unfounded first assumptions.

We believe that the creation was completed in six twenty-four hour days and that the world is not older than about six thousand
years. We maintain that the Bible teaches us of an earth that neither rotates daily nor revolves yearly about the sun; that it is at rest
with respect to the throne of him who called it into existence; and that hence it is absolutely at rest in the universe.

We affirm that no man is righteous and so all are in need of salvation, which is the free gift of God, given by the grace of God, and
not to be obtained through any merit or works of our own. We affirm that salvation is available only through faith in the shed blood
and finished work of our risen LORD and saviour, Jesus Christ.

Lastly, the reason why we deem a return to a geocentric astronomy a first apologetic necessity is that its rejection at the beginning of
our Modern Age constitutes one very important, if not the most important, cause of the historical development of Bible criticism,
now resulting in an increasingly anti-Christian world in which atheistic existentialism is preaching a life that is really meaningless.

If you agree with the above, please consider becoming a member of the Association. Membership dues are $20 per year.
Members receive a 20% discount on all literature and books offered for sale by the Association.

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word,
it is because there is no light in them. -- Isaiah 8:20





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